Curse

Riotgear · Dec 23, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by Beinke

I mean, the noobs have gotta learn some way, don't they? >_>

You mean like talking to the NPC for a description of the match?

Took two matches to figure out how to win: Move in one nice, tightly-packed group and pummel the person running the present. Or if you have the present, pummel anyone chasing them.

And of course, if you wind up getting the 10-second disease that spreads to your teammates and cancels hidden rock, just go back to ToB and rejoin until you get the AOE cripple instead. :P

CyberNigma · Dec 23, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54

I suck at the snowball fights but they are fun. It'd be nice if they applied the same logic to get rid of leachers in other areas (not participating in the battle means no xp, etc I know there's another thread about that) to snowball fights so the losers can get some reward again. Just because I suck at the game doesn't mean I don't try it. The loser rewards were removed because of leachers.. How about applying some brainpower to it instead of brute force and not give those things to people leaching in a corner somewhere.. If it works in one place,m it should work in another. Gaile discuessed it the other day - if oyu don't participate in some way you don't get xp - same thing..

dr love · Dec 23, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

we got 32 consecutive wins. took ~ 2 hours.

Makkert · Dec 23, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by lightblade

I get at least a 2 consecutive win whenever i play a game. I'm just that good. Don't blame others and blame yourself.

I'm guessing you only played 2 games then.
If you get a bad team, there is nothing that will prevent a loss. Not even your uberleet skills.

Pentagonal_Penguin · Dec 23, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

The snowball arena is supposed to be fun.

Let me repeat that.

The snowball arena is supposed to be fun.

Last year, I had just started playing. I came out of presearing, into a snow-covered Ascalon City, and, while exploring this new, post searing world, I encounterd a snowball fights NPC. "Hmm, that looks fun", I thought to myself. So, I joined, played a few games, probably played quite badly, and had fun.

This year, I am a more experienced player, and win at least as often as I lose. However, whether I'm winning 5-0 with a stellar team, winning or losing close matches 5-4 or 4-5, or getting smashed after getting paired up either with newer team mates or against a experienced opponents, I am having fun.

Thanks ArenaNet for this excellent, fun mini-game.

Lilandra · Dec 24, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13

I really miss the random presents they did in the matches last year. I loved that you got one when you turned a present in and when your team won. The candy cane shards seem like a bummer to get...maybe it was just the anticipation of opening the gift and hoping it was a candy cane...I dunno...either way I find myself less interested in playing the snowball fights this year because of it, and I was really looking forward to it. I have talked about the snowball fights for months. I think there were a lot less afkers when you got some kind of reward for turning presents in too...there was a good reason to be at keys and participating. Anyone else find themselves not as interested because of that?
Lil

Frau Braten · Dec 24, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

This was my first time doing snowball fights, and I enjoyed it. It was a little frustrating, getting teams with one person just standing there, or quitting after he decided that he got stuck with a bunch of noobs.

I think they should have paired the teams up better, take the list of teams ready to start a match and sort them by consecutive wins, and pair them from the top, that way, the newly formed teams will most likely play another newly formed team, and the team with 30 wins will play the team with 29 wins, and one of them will defiantely be broken up.

Makes the game funner for everyone, I think

anonymous · Dec 24, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pentagonal_Penguin

The snowball arena is supposed to be fun.

Let me repeat that.

The snowball arena is supposed to be fun.

Last year, I had just started playing. I came out of presearing, into a snow-covered Ascalon City, and, while exploring this new, post searing world, I encounterd a snowball fights NPC. "Hmm, that looks fun", I thought to myself. So, I joined, played a few games, probably played quite badly, and had fun.

This year, I am a more experienced player, and win at least as often as I lose. However, whether I'm winning 5-0 with a stellar team, winning or losing close matches 5-4 or 4-5, or getting smashed after getting paired up either with newer team mates or against a experienced opponents, I am having fun.

Thanks ArenaNet for this excellent, fun mini-game.

The title is why people that aren't having fun are playing. I want a title that says l33t skillz but I got tired of snowball fightf after 400 points, and I'm not playing for fun so no point staying to lose.

Ensign · Dec 24, 2006, 07:22 AM // 07:22

I don't think losing is very fun. Particularly, losing because my teammates are incompetent.

It's frustrating, but I watch the behavior of my teammates for the first 20 seconds of a match. If I have people on my team who are clearly incompetent or retarded, it's back to GToB to retry until I get a team that's competent or I get impatient and quit.

Harsh, but the only way to play to keep from raging out.

Peace,
-CxE

Phades · Dec 24, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Aww, come on, i am sure everyone wants to see others turn into green raging hulks of fury after watching their team mates take the gift to the wrong side of the map, not pick up gifts at all, stand perfectly still the entire match, walk around and do nothing, or my personal favorite necro suicide themselves constantly at full health. That is the whole point of fun games like this, ruin everyone else's fun except your own. If others are participating in that fun, all the better right?

It would be interesting if there were a TA version of this, even though i doubt i would benefit much from it. The aspect i would be most interested in, would be what would people choose to bring, if they had the option to choose 4 professions to work together.

Fitz Rinley · Dec 24, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

If the drop rate of CCS was half way decent outside of arena, then you would have fewer PvE players there. All the "noobs" your refering to are likely those who are only PvPing becuase the shards will not fall in any appreciable level.

Further, the official wikis are extremely unclear. Nothing about this Wintersday makes any sense. As for instance, the getting of a hat - traditionally something you could get both versions of. Now wiki says you will only get one from whoever rules the day. So, if wiki is right then everyone will get the same hat or get screwed. If you want a Grenth hat and Dwayna wins - too bad.

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Originally Posted by Clerihew

But when you get in a good team and go and a winning streak it feels all the better for having had to suffer through the bad ones.

I know it has been said before in the thread but, really, it IS just for a laugh. I understand what you mean but I doubt they are going to make any changes. If it's winding you up then perhaps you'll enjoy wintersday more doing other things.

It is "winding me up" bad enough I have left the game twice today. Why - because playing has no value. The quests do not allow you to get enough to be of any value for the hours they take to get done. Teams in the arenas will play well for one round or two and then fall apart. Only the PvP standard players are getting winning streaks, not casual or regular PvE players (the general bastard children of ANets clients). And if the damn thing is just for a laugh why in the hell are all the benefits so restricted. (Easy - because it is more of this Eliteness garbage we are always force-fed, as if the professional PvP player or Farmer puts their panties on with gold trim and a twinkle-nose.) Things that are fun are not things that are restricted, a keep-away game, etc. This is perhaps the worst Wintersday yet. But then I remember being able to actually get Peppermint CCs when you played - and at a rate that was worth bothering to farm.

Anduin · Dec 24, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

If the drop rate of CCS was half way decent outside of arena, then you would have fewer PvE players there. All the "noobs" your refering to are likely those who are only PvPing becuase the shards will not fall in any appreciable level.

Further, the official wikis are extremely unclear. Nothing about this Wintersday makes any sense. As for instance, the getting of a hat - traditionally something you could get both versions of. Now wiki says you will only get one from whoever rules the day. So, if wiki is right then everyone will get the same hat or get screwed. If you want a Grenth hat and Dwayna wins - too bad.

It is "winding me up" bad enough I have left the game twice today. Why - because playing has no value. The quests do not allow you to get enough to be of any value for the hours they take to get done. Teams in the arenas will play well for one round or two and then fall apart. Only the PvP standard players are getting winning streaks, not casual or regular PvE players (the general bastard children of ANets clients). And if the damn thing is just for a laugh why in the hell are all the benefits so restricted. (Easy - because it is more of this Eliteness garbage we are always force-fed, as if the professional PvP player or Farmer puts their panties on with gold trim and a twinkle-nose.) Things that are fun are not things that are restricted, a keep-away game, etc. This is perhaps the worst Wintersday yet. But then I remember being able to actually get Peppermint CCs when you played - and at a rate that was worth bothering to farm.

If you want to collect candy cane shards, all you need to do is repeat the Strength of Snow quest until you can't stand it anymore (which for me, isn't long. Diablo 2 ruined me for any sort of grinding, repetitious monotony that this game might like to throw at me, which unfortunately, is quite often).

Anyways, the "Skillz" title is the absolute stupidest title this game has to offer, and I puke everytime I see a moron running around with it. I try to keep the "leet" internet crap away from myself as much as possible, and I especially don't want to see it follow me into a fantasy based game of all places. Hence, no more local chat. It's too bad that this forum is rife with those inane stupidities I hate so much (QQ, leet, skillz, among others).

Bah, I hate 90% of you based on this alone.

Burst Cancel · Dec 24, 2007, 03:07 AM // 03:07

I don't understand the whole mindset of, "this is for fun, so you can't play to win". Incompetence - yes, including my own - irritates me in any activity, fun or not. In doing anything, I far prefer if everyone involved, including my opponents, was actually good at it. That's what *makes* things fun. Playing with newbies and/or morons is just a chore.

As for the OP, the difficulty in finding a team and getting wins is completely offset by the fact that if you ever *do* get a good team, you win until you get tired of it and quit. The odds of ever seeing another good team in there, even after 100 games, is phenomenally low.

Tender Wolf · Dec 24, 2007, 04:48 AM // 04:48

OMG I know how you feel. RA/snowball fight & me = instant lose because I'm always on the losing team. So I just give up.

Dante the Warlord · Dec 24, 2007, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Hey YOU are lucky for having that few, i had to lose 30 games straight before i FINALLY won one, for three shards...

Avarre · Dec 24, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

I love how this thread is a year old and yet is still perfectly relevant.

Some things don't change.

Curse You · Dec 24, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05

I only entered DvG twice.

First time, I left because my team only had enough intelligence to rival turnip.

Second time, my team had a 17 game winning streak.

mortis corpus · Dec 24, 2007, 05:22 AM // 05:22

my only thought 7 strait looses and you want to cry about noobs in the area, so u can get CCS and gamer points? dude relax take a pill and remember it just a game, to get to serious on snow ball fights, maybe need to take up a hobby

**cosyfiep** · Dec 24, 2007, 05:35 AM // 05:35

the snowball fight is supposed to be FUN not a pvp leet area etc....many of the people doing it have NEVER done pvp and with attitudes like the OP's many of them wont afterwards either. I wish that they wouldnt allow pvp people into the snowball fights so that the pve'ers could have fun without being called horrible names! or make an area of the snowball fight JUST for those pvp people who need that whatevertheheckitis from killing off ........
many of these 'noobs' may be looking at the skills for the first time as well...they arent the standard pvp or pve skillbars and unless you have played them before its all quite new (or if you changed characters you get new skills or if you have changed sides even!). Give people a chance its only a game.
Its bad enough that many of the people playing are just learning the game, but then to be called names just makes you NOT want to play----and thats NOT what the snowball fight is for....if you want a leet team go play ta, ra or whatever the heck pvp play, and leave the snowball area to those of us wishing to just have a good time---not see how many wins we can get.

Wintersday is just fun, its not about winning.

KANE OG · Dec 24, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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Originally Posted by Xiaxhou of Trinity

I don't want to start a flaming thread against me or anet

Too late. You either suck at that aspect of the game, or you suck at complaining about it. Cya.

KANE

Edit: Bah! And I suck at quoting, but I can't be bothered with fixing it. Good Luck.

Edit again:

I fixed it, so there!

Pss: Just saw Avarre's comment on how old this thread is.

I PWNT myself!